Loki Was My Homeboy - Saturday, October 31st, 2009 - 4:29 AM
A thread salvaged from /x/. A warning to would-be skeptics. The point of this thread is to DOCUMENT the theory/story's universe and gather as much complete information as possible, not debate its legitimacy.
The following was written by Loki Was My Homeboy
No. 11244 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:32 AM
So, some time ago.. say, a year or so, there was a thread on /x/. This thread was, like many others, one of those shitty "I'm a -insert paranormal here- ask me anything" thread.
This particular O.P. claimed to be part of an organization that was preparing for what they called the "end of life as we know it." Essentially, there was going to be some catastrophic event that would fundamentally alter the reality we all live in.
Now, I was bored, and a little curious, so I managed to finagle an Instant Messenger address from the OP, and then proceeded to spend the next 3 hours questioning him on the subject.
Every single answer was given with haste, in clear, concise language, and without any indication of lying or creativity.
So, in the spirit of Halloween, I'm here to answer any questions you might have about this particular fellow, the organization, and their theories on the end of the world as we know it.
No. 11245 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:35 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:37 Just one question, when.
All I want to know is when.
Answer They didn't have any concrete answer. From what he told me, there were a few organizations working both for and against this particular event, which left the exact date a little fluid.
He did say that he would be absolutely stunned if 2014 came around without it happening.
No. 11246 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:36 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:39 Ok, thats when.
How?
Answer As he explained it to me, the basic gist of what would happen would be a total and complete collapse of the barrier separating the material and astral worlds, which would essentially allow a complete mixture between the beasts, machines, and humans of the material world with the demons, gods, spirits and beasts of the astral realm.
No. 11247 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:38 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:43 What were his credentials? Anyone can type. What convinced you personally?
Answer He never presented any concrete evidence of anything. I'm not even 100% that I believe him. I will say he was convincing, though, because, as I said in my original post, this discussion went on for about 3 hours. I'm not an expert, but I'm a pretty astute judge of character, and I can see the tell tale signs of a lie or a fabricated story, especially over that period of time.
He never gave me any indication that he was making any of this up. He was either very, very good, or he truly believed what he was saying.
Whether or not you believe him is up to you to decide.
No. 11248 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:39 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:44 As a result of this collapse, these beings would then destroy us?
Answer As he described it, they expected that humanity would be able to hold on. Many, many humans would die, yes, but we'd manage to cling together in groups, partially because many of the beings on the other side of the barrier aren't malevolent.
They have the same propensity for good and evil as human beings.
No. 11249 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:41 AM
Anyways, in addition to some of these beings on the other side of the barrier, he also said that many humans would, with the collapse of the barrier, discover latent astral powers.
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:52 well that sounds neat
No. 11250 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:43 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:54 Did you ask him if there are indicators to tell if you are one of those humans or not. As in tell before it happens, any way to hone those powers subconsciously to better prepare yourself when it comes?
Answer He said it would be a majority.
As he explained it, originally, all human beings had astral powers. At some point in history, this 'Veil' was constructed, to keep the darker denziens of the astral from ravaging humanity.
Thus, civilization began, we crawled out of the muck, and slowly began breeding out astral powers. For the most part, it's just been weakened, but he said that almost everyone still has these latent abilities, and a few people are still strong enough to occasionally use them even now.
No. 11251 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:45 AM
You should have heard the plans that "Loki" has for the world.
Or at least, what they could piece together.
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)05:57 well, do tell, what were these plans.
Answer Something along the lines of "Turn New York into a vampire den, for the lulz"
After that, they think he's going to go do SOMETHING in Colorado, but they have no idea what. They assume it will be destructive, though.
No. 11252 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:46 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:01 I suppose that they would have some way to negate humanity's collective nuclear arsenal?
The "astrals" in general I mean.
Answer I didn't think to ask him about that, actually. However, from what I understand, the collapse would be so sudden and drastic, I don't really think anyone would be organized enough to fire anything, much less even know what to target. It would be an instantaneous world-wide event.
No. 11253 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:48 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:06 Collapse as in of the barrier or what.
Answer The barrier.
Essentially, whenever it happens, this barrier will snap out of existence in an instant. In that instant, all the human beings who have latent astral powers (most of them) will all spontaneously have access to these abilities. Additionally, all of the creatures existing in the other realm will suddenly snap into existence in our realm.
As he explained it, the two realms exist in parallel to each other, and the veil only keeps us from sensing or interacting with them. Otherwise, they're -technically- sorta kinda here.
No. 11254 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:51 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:11 Any other place/country he specified?
Answer Let's see... He said that there were mem-
Hmm... you know, this conversation took place in 2006. At the time he said there was a relative unknown in the U.S. government who was working at bringing the veil down for unknown reasons. He also said it was likely that this guy would be president in the next election.
I never thought about it, but that sounds exactly like Barrack motherfucking Obama.
That Guy. 10/31/09(Sat)06:11 Please OP, you are practically only talking to me, so go ahead and rattle off all this guy told you, every detail you can remember.
Answer He said China was going to be an absolute killing field. The number of people would be irresistible to the more bloodthirsty of the beings on the other side. As would many large urban centers.
No. 11255 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:52 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:12 What'd he say about the "organisations" involved?
Answer Very little. I only got little hints of how his particular organization worked. There was a lot he said he couldn't tell me as far as names/groups were concerned. He could give me general info, but that was it.
As for the groups working to bring it down, he said that most of them weren't even known to him, or even most of his organization, only that they knew there were people communicating with individuals on the astral side working towards the same goals.
Essentially, they're attacking the veil from both sides.
No. 11256 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:55 AM
The guy told me that everyone in his little group had all had a similar dream. It started with some spirit in a tree, or something like that, telling them about the veil, etc. Then, after that, the spirit would go and show them a little glimpse of the future to come. However, it showed everyone a different piece. His little organization was made up of people who had all had a dream starting the same way, and were trying to peice together the bits of the future they saw to figure out what was going to happen, and how to survive it.
~
You know, I'll admit, the whole "psychic warrior" thing had me going for a bit while I was talking to him, too.
Doesn't change the fact that I talked to him for 3 hours and he never had misstep or contradictory statement.
Something I've already failed at.
No. 11257 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:56 AM
Moving the fuck on...
Let's see... he said that most of the basic archetypes for gods in polytheistic religions were present... "Loki" was just the nickname they used for the trickster character, etc.
Pretty much anything there's ever been a fairy tale, myth, religious allegory about, exists, in theory, on the other side of this veil.
No. 11258 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:57 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:40 Did you bother to ask him why he cared enough that he would tell people about it?
Answer He said that, originally, the Organization he was a part of, S.O.U.L. was trying to warn humanity about the impending doom, etc.
After a while, they just got tired of people calling them crackpots, so they decided to settle into taking care of themselves. From time to time they send people out to websites like 4chan, where there is a very, very slim possibility of a little tiny bit of headway, and try to inform people, but for the most part, they don't bother anymore.
No. 11259 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 4:59 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:49 honestly doesn't seem like they tried very hard considering the whole internet should've had the opportunity to stumble across this.
so if there IS a warning, what is the point of it? is there any information on how to prepare oneself?... because i can think of only a few circumstances where awareness is all the protection you need. mostly you need time, preparation, and solutions.
Answer From what I understand, all you can really do is just try to be aware. Just by considering the possibility and being prepared to deal with the situation you pretty much increase your chances of survival tenfold. I asked him the same question, a couple of times, and he just said that it was pretty much a matter of being mentally ready to deal with the shit hitting the fan.
No. 11260 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 5:02 AM
As for other things he told me... he said that as the barrier weakens, there will be more and more people who become aware of the situation. That beings on the other side will slowly gain more influence over the material world, and some humans will be able to manipulate their realm a little bit. Essentially, the closer we get, the more indicators that something is wrong will be present.
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)06:56 Would several hundred people with 12 gauge shotguns, AKs, and grenades stand a chance against a god?
Answer I have no idea what it takes to deal with one, so I couldn't tell you.
But I got the impression from this guy that 'gods' tend to prefer using other beings to do their dirty work, and thus keep themselves out of the crossfire.
Just like most religions.
No. 11261 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 5:03 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)07:00 Ah, I see.
I dunno why but I get the feeling most of these ''other beings'' will be vulnerable.
Answer I THINK I remember him saying something about it being possible to kill a god, but that it'd be incredibly difficult, without the added issues brought about by the fact that they surround themselves with followers.
No. 11262 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 5:05 AM
And I never said this was truth. I have stated, time and time again, that I am not claiming this is true. I am simply relating information that another individual passed along to me.
That's all I'm doing. I'm not asserting jack shit.
On that note, I'm not going to try to defend this shit anymore. If you have questions, I'll try to sift through and answer them. Or, message me on my AIM at wolflancer211, and I'll try to answer it there.
Otherwise? I don't really give a shit. It's Halloween for fucks sake, grab a beer and be happy.
No. 11263 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 5:07 AM
Anonymous 10/31/09(Sat)07:05 I can travel out of body to the astral plane, but when I do, it like, makes me shake uncontrollably and I always feel drained afterwards, so I don't do it often.
My question is, what will happen to people who already have considerable astral powers?
Answer I got the impression that anyone who already has astral powers is just someone who jumped the ship a little early. You won't change, everyone else will just catch up.
No. 11264 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 5:12 AM
End of Current Content.
Attempting to get the second-hand OP in here.
No. 11265 - Loki Was My Homeboy - October 31st, 2009 - 5:54 AM
Wait, what?
Oh, well, I missed this being here...
No. 11266 - Loki Was My Homeboy - October 31st, 2009 - 5:58 AM
Well, I'm here now, will post things on the subject as I recall them.
No. 11267 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2009 - 11:35 AM
Well, dammit. now I'm intrigued. So, basically, what I'm to undertand is that sometime in the near future the divide between this plane of existence and the astral plane is going to collapse, which is probably going to cause a majority of people on the planet to shit bri/x/. As a result, if I want a chance of surviving, I should probably look into astral meditation as a hobby?
I organized and reformatted the posts, while inviting the OP here because I am interested in the story as much as I enjoy reading the lore behind anime or games. As a creative writer in my own leisure time, I appreciate having my imagination expanded by listening to the ideas of others. As I've said in the first post, this storyverse is hardly meant to be debated.
If you're not interested, don't post. Hide the thread. People seem to forget that this board is an extension of the WIKI where the purpose is to save content, not harass people into keeping their creativity locked away. If I continue to see sarcastic ASSHOLE comments I will start taking measures to take back this board.
I've heard several people theorize similarly concerning the '2012 doomsday'. Mostly new-age sorts, but I suppose it makes some sort of sense. Personally, I don't know what to think. Excited, wary, and skeptical.
No. 11272 - John Smith - October 31st, 2009 - 8:10 PM
>>12613 I don't know if it's going to be 2012 or even if the world will end, but what I've read here makes sense to me, and I believe that something big is going to happen within the next few years. Even I have been feeling that whatever line exists between the physical and astral planes is slowly fading away. I've even noticed a great increase in the number of Auras that I've been seeing recently.
You're got my interest. I'm a huge skeptic, but I've been feeling antsy lately, in a way, like something is going to happen, so I'm keeping an eye out anyway. I try to be an intelligent skeptic, I dismiss most paranormal stuff as retarded, but at the same time, I have to admit I can't know for sure there's nothing paranormal. I've felt auras before, I've meditated, just enough to feel like this might be true. Even if it's just me wishing it were true. I've been dying for complete social upheaval. As a scientist, I sort of want to be proven wrong about my view of reality. I want there to be more.
I also want kick-ass astral abilities. Sweet.
No. 11274 - Anonymous - November 1st, 2009 - 2:17 AM
First of all - from this thread
>Something along the lines of "Turn New York into a vampire den, for the lulz"
And this - from the thread "The Secret World"
>and where the undead prey on the living in the shadows of New York City.
So this could be another viral for The Secret World.
Regardless of that,I am quite interested...Please go on.
Posting for intrigue, if there's any more to this story. Also, to those who say they can see auras, is that something you were born with or something you developed? If developed, any tips on how?
No. 11276 - John Smith - November 1st, 2009 - 4:16 PM
>>12678 I was born with it, but I hear there are loads of ways to develop it. Try googling it and see what you come back with.
The bottom rung of the Tree of Life is supposed to be physical reality, and the next one up is supposed to be the place where our ideas of archetypes reside.
The very basic technique I learned was to hold out my hands and imagine tiny pores opening up all over my skin. I eventually managed to feel auras this way, but I never managed to develop it much. I can feel auras as tingly air with frequencies and colors, though I haven't done it for a while.
>>12697 Interesting, I'm in the dark, looking at my hands with slight illumination from the monitor. I see a slight orange color. This will need further experimentation.
I'll admit, I never even considered the idea that you might see it.
If you're going to try to get in touch with me, I'm working overnight for the time being. Keep that in mind.
I apologize to everyone who's interest was piqued and went unsatiated. I was rather tired at the time and just forgot to come back in. I'll try to check in from time to time, but for now I think I'm going to wait and see what ShadowOfEthereal has to say to me... he's the original contact I mentioned..
I'm a little bemused by this turn of events...
No. 11287 - Anonymous - November 2nd, 2009 - 11:06 AM
Guys I'd like to know as much as possible on this,so could you please post the story?Pretty please..
>>12702 Hang on, I remember this. Society of Unseen Light? Or something like that anyways. I had meant to ask you in the original thread what the light was that your organization's name referred to, but the thread 404'd. Any chance of you being able to satisfy my curiosity?
>>12834 I believe that is the OP of the thread from about a year ago on 4chan's /x/. I remember the thread, but not many of the details, apart from the name of the organization.
How intriguing. I'll stay tuned, I have many questions myself, though I'm not quite sure how to phrase them yet.
No. 11292 - Anonymous - November 5th, 2009 - 11:46 AM
Asking questions while I bump this potentially awesome thread :
1.)What is the best way of developing astral powers and with what astral powers should a beginner begin?
2.)What kind of astrals dwell in astral realm?
3.)How can one spot signs of rupture in the barrier?
Ok, you got me. I am genuinely interested. wolflancer211, I sent you an IM on AIM, but you don't seem to be online at the moment. At any rate, I'm going to be checking back on this thread regularly to see if there are any more updates regarding this whole thing. I'm still a bit skeptical, but only to a healthy degree. It doesn't hurt to be informed, right? So, wolflancer211, if you get back on AIM, my screename is cocosir. (if any one else is interested in discussing this, feel free to IM me as well)
No. 11295 - John Smith - November 5th, 2009 - 4:46 PM
>>12942 Forgive me if my answers are a little off the mark, but I think I can help you out here. My specialty is Disembodied Auras (You may have seen me post in that other thread), but make no mistake, they dwell in the Astral Realm/Aural Plane/Upper Dimension. I may be a little off, since I've only been able to communicate with them for a few years myself, but here's my views on it anyway.
>1.)What is the best way of developing astral powers and with what astral powers should a beginner begin?
There are many ways of developing the powers, but I hear meditating and lucid dreaming are good places to start, since it would appear as though the Astral Realm is connected to our dreams in one way or another. To start off with, you should probably just try entering the Astral Realm, just to get the hang of things.
>2.)What kind of astrals dwell in astral realm?
All kinds. Since the Astral Plane is much more vast than our own physical realm, there is a lot of variety amongst the species there. They can all be categorized, sub-categorized, then those sub-categories can be sub-categorized, etc., etc. The main categories seem to be Auras (these are my specialty), Djinns, Phantoms, Demons, Gods, Demi-Gods, Angels and Watchers/Wanderers (I know virtually nothing about Watchers since I've only ever seen one, but they're definitely there.).
>3.)How can one spot signs of rupture in the barrier?
Most people won't notice it at all. When entering the Astral Realm, there is normally a certain amount of resistance present. This is most likely because we humans were not originally able to cross this barrier, but that's obviously changed. Now when one crosses into the Astral Realm, there is very little resistance at all. There is still resistance though, enough in fact to stop a lot of people from being able to enter/exit. Other ways of spotting it besides actually crossing over are meditating, lucid dreaming, things like this, but of course it's still much less noticeable this way.
I hope I've helped clear a few things up, but as I say, some of this may be inaccurate since I'm no real expert on the whole subject. If anybody has any corrections to make, please don't hesitate. Also, if anybody wishes to get in contact with me about the Auras or the Aural Plane, feel free to add me on msn: Alchemic-Angel@Hotmail.com
>>12832 I remember that some months ago that so-called society posted a lot on 7chan's and 4chan's /x/. Most of their talk was "we need people with super powerz lol" and they tried to sound misterious and shit, so they came off as pretentious. Thus, trollercoasters were had.
super interested. if this is in any way true, i am about to have a lot of fun. never played with astral projection, but i see auras, and have intuition bordering on spider-sense.
if this dropping of the veil comes with a side of zombie, i am gonna be a kid in a candy store.
They want you to believe you know what will happen, in order to manipulate what will really be happening.
Worlds will fold and cascade into one. Time will compress and become traversable. Possibilities will be infinite. What shape it will take will be decided by the will of the observers and this is why some groups would have you believe one truth in order to control it.
You ask, what power will we have. You ask, how one can protect themself. These questions are wrought from fear and misleading urgencies. A select few who have spent years practicing in the ether would like nothing more than to have themselves become the elite of the next merging. This is why they tell you to believe in them, but share nothing of how their world works. They value your willpower, but not your free will.
The wise one that secured the first merging and divided the waters to recreate the worlds anew gave you free will in order to give you freedom of thought, so you could join and add to the infinity, not segregate yourself into another finite universe with rules, borders, and false gods. Do not let yourself become victim to certitude and the concepts of inevitable truths. Throw away prejudices. Judge not.
In earlier times, we would 'remove' the instigators of such false truths by any means necessary, but now after so many generations, they actually believe. They believe and they take it with them when they pass through the ether. It is vital that people are properly disinformed. That they leave this world humbled, and open to all possibilities.
"Nothing is forbidden, everything is permitted."
The dying words that once saved a man's soul in the infinity.
No. 11299 - Loki Was My Homeboy - November 6th, 2009 - 11:46 PM
I am Back! (Finally) And will try to answer some questions.
>>12942 >1.)What is the best way of developing astral powers and with what astral powers should a beginner begin?
Not a clue, you're asking the wrong guy.
>2.)What kind of astrals dwell in astral realm?
The impression I got was, if it exists in religion, myth, allegory, or folklore, it probably exists in one form or another in the astral plane. Essentially, most of those beings co-existed with human beings for quite some time before this 'barrier' was created.
>3.)How can one spot signs of rupture in the barrier?
Again, I'm not entirely sure. The impression I got was that, as the barrier weakens, general paranormal activity will increase. Ghost sightings, mysterious shapes and shadows, etc. The usual, just more of it.
No. 11300 - Anonymous - November 7th, 2009 - 1:57 AM
Okay,one more question :
How do Astrals live?Are they like us,with jobs and schools or something else?
No. 11301 - Loki Was My Homeboy - November 7th, 2009 - 2:06 AM
No. 11304 - Guardian - November 7th, 2009 - 9:39 AM
My family has held for centuries that the return of Avalon, the return of the Elves, would be the end of human civilization as we know it now. Elfkin have been awakening for the last two centuries. Otherkin have began awakening in the last century. Now we see a influx of interest in the Otherworld, what we call Avalon and you call Astral.
My family has followed this for centuries, and this sudden influx of interest is, well a sign it is coming soon.
Council has judged me able to speak on this subject as a Guardian. So feel free to ask question, I will answer to the best of my ability.
As for the OP, Loki's Homeboy, and ShadowOfEthereal. I would like to speak with both of you, at some future time.
No. 11305 - John Smith - November 7th, 2009 - 11:28 AM
>>13041 Their way of living is completely different from our own. They don't have "schools" or "jobs" per se, but there are those who gather in places to learn and study things, and there are those who take it upon themselves to carry out various odd jobs every now and then. Their culture is extremely different from our own, for the most part. Saying that, there are others who observe and study our various different cultures and languages, for reasons I'm not entirely sure of, but it's probably purely out of interest, the way some people study the behavior patterns of animals or insects. As I've mentioned already, some even take the time to learn several of our languages, religions, beliefs and many other things.
No. 11306 - John Smith - November 7th, 2009 - 11:36 AM
>>13043 You're right, that is a complex one. I have to say, I really don't know exactly how it will happen. Maybe somebody else has an idea, though.
No. 11307 - John Smith - November 7th, 2009 - 12:47 PM
>>12553 I can't believe I've only just noticed this comment.
>everyone in his little group had all had a similar dream. It started with some spirit in a tree, or something like that, telling them about the veil, etc.
Now, this wasn't the exact dream I had, but something very similar happened to me in a dream I had not all that long ago, maybe about a year or so. I was standing in a huge, empty field, with a tree in the middle. The strange thing was, the whole field and even the tree were on fire. But there was no smoke, and nothing was actually burning. I had chains all over my body, and one of the chains was attached to the tree. A man wearing all black stepped out of the tree, and he had a chain around his ankle. His chain was connected to the tree too. He was wearing black shoes, black pants, a black top and black gloves, so that no skin below the neck was visible. He was wearing a mask too, a white featureless one. He was also the only thing in the whole field that wasn't on fire. Even I was on fire, but it was only a lukewarm feeling that it gave me. He started to talk to me about all sorts of tings, and his voice was naggingly familiar. He didn't exactly talk about the future, but he did talk about many other things, most of which I've forgotten. It was only when he took the mask off that I realized where I recognized the voice from. It was my voice, and he wore my face under the mask. Shortly after this, I woke up.
Now I'm probably making something out of nothing, and this probably belongs somewhere else, but I just felt it was relevant to things that were mentioned earlier in the thread, so I thought I might as well mention it. Feel free to ignore this comment completely if you feel it's too irrelevant though.
>>13052 are you reffering to dead/spiritual humans?
ive heard consistent descriptions from several places regarding astral realms, making my interest in the subject grow to no end, and i think i may have possibly visited a couple of these unexplained areas in strange sleeping experiences.
from what i hear there is astral wildlife/entities and astral people, as in dead folks. your description sounds very similar to what ive heard bout actual people living in these places. i have heard there are musicians and medical staff in certain places, and that they have some degree of awareness on what happens in our areas of existence. sometimes i feel like my head is going to explode when i think about this stuff. im going to met a guy next week who basically claims to be regularly and voluntarily possessed by some guy from the afterlife. im obviously taking this with a pinch of salt, but im gonna write down what he says and hopefully make an interesting thread, or ill just post it here seeing as how it relates to the general theme. this thread is great.
i am now checking this thread 3 times a day.
best thread i have seen in a while, and i am constantly braced for epic.
No. 11310 - Lady of Loss - November 7th, 2009 - 5:54 PM
I'm shitting bri/x/ right now, but not for any expected reason. I've read this entire thread and every bit of it, right down to the organizations and "political unknown" hoping to destroy the veil, was part of a tabletop roleplaying game that I was involved in several years ago. Robla, is that you writing all this? I really, really hope someone involved in said game is posting all this stuff, because the only other alternative is some freaky-ass synchronicity stuff that I frankly do not want to deal with.
No. 11312 - John Smith - November 7th, 2009 - 8:12 PM
>>13056 Not necessarily "dead humans" as such, but I guess there are probably quite a few of them there too. For the most part, they seem to be an existence entirely separate from our own, but I guess it's possible that there are a few former humans, and let's not forget people who are just "visiting", among them.
As for Astral Wildlife, if you mean Astral cows, Astral bears and such, well, I guess those probably exist too, but I've never personally seen any. There are other creatures though, less humanoid than others, and you could only really call them "animals". Beings that are very beast-like in appearance, nature, and sometimes both, so I guess there is Astral Wildlife after all.
As for musicians and doctors, they're most likely former humans, or people Astral Projecting (or whatever you want to call it), though I'm sure there are a few "natives" who could get interested in that kind of thing too.
>>13062 I don't know if you were talking to me, but I don't know anybody called "Robla", and I've never heard of an RPG like the one you mentioned, although it sounds like one hell of a fun game. Sorry to disappoint, but everything I've said is all gathered from personal, firsthand experience, not playing video games/tabletop RPGs. In fact, I personally hope there aren't (m)any people who are simply posting information from games and such. But saying that, even if this were just the plot for some game, I guess I'd probably be one of the first to buy it, purely out of curiosity.
>>13057 Well to be honest, this is the first time I've seen so many people interested in the Aural Plane, and I'm glad you're checking this thread so often. Also, as I've said, please don't hesitate to ask questions about anything you don't understand, or even just things that are there nagging at the back of your mind. I'll try my best to answer any question about the Aural Plane, no matter how pointless you might think it is at the time.
No. 11313 - GrimmGeist - November 8th, 2009 - 5:18 AM
My advice to all of you would be to study up on the astral. Projections, dementions, perceptions, as much as you can find on it.
What exists there, exists on varying levels. The things that exist there are not just things of mythology or religion, but anything we give a substantial amount of thought to. The realm itself is in fact connected directly with human thought. This means (in theory) that all the horrors and beauties we have created and widely accepted will have a given level of realness (if the veil falls), be that physically or otherwise.
Gods, zombies, Cthulhu, vampires, the whole list of horror related beings.
The only way to govern which would make it though would be if there are some sort of regulations or requirements on the other side for their existence.
If it would require a certain amount of collective thoughts to make these things real, well, think of how many christians there are.
In an attempt to explain our own existence we have created gods. In our own ignorance we may make them real.
I do not claim to be an expert on the subject, but i have studied a lot in it. If this were to happen it would be worse than and D-Day we could imagine.
If it happens in my generation I'm gonna be soooooo happy.
No. 11314 - Anonymous - November 8th, 2009 - 7:36 AM
>>13062 synchronicity is the way forward amigo
>>13056 it put me on the path to meeting that guy i was talking about here, no joke. got a good feeling about meeting him to be honest, but i always expect the worst.
We've got to for a group of fighter to defeat the other realms...in mortal kombat.
Seriously, wasn't this the plot of the second mortal kombat movie?
No. 11317 - John Smith - November 8th, 2009 - 4:02 PM
>>13106 ...No.
No, I don't think it was. There are similarities, but this and that are two completely different things. For one, I still haven't even seen the second Mortal Kombat movie.
Due to the content of this thread, there are obviously going to be some subtle (and occasionally not-so-subtle) similarities, between movies, books, video games, etc. However, that doesn't mean that we're simply taking the plots from stories and games and turning into a thread, that would just be rather pointless. Any similarities are most likely coincidence, unless there are a handful of very skilled, subtle trolls lurking in this thread. Which I doubt, but I guess it's possible.
No. 11318 - Lady of Loss - November 8th, 2009 - 5:28 PM
>>13112 Lady here. It could easily just be coincidence. There are only so many stories that people tell themselves, after all. Similarities with video games/movies/tabletop doesn't necessarily mean anything, except that these ideas have been floating around for a long time.
>>13115 yeah, that was actually addressed earlier in this thread. the astral contains all of the collective ideas we have as a species. games and movies come from it, not the other way around (although we could be feeding it constantly by our creations)
I don't know if any of this is BS or not, but sometimes I can feel things. Nothing in the way of seeing the future mostly just emotions.
It rarely happens and I don't know how to make it happen. But I feel something big is coming, it doesn't feel bad or good. The thing that worries me is if it were good I would think I would feel excitement rather then anticipation.
I feel like I need to prepare for this but I don't know how or have anyone to turn to. My friends and family shun this sort of thinking so I have to keep it to myself and here. If there organization that could help me with these things that would be quite helpful
I have been meditating for about a year and when I meditate I think of nothing and there is only complete darkness as I push my self further back into my mind. At one point I saw myself sitting there in complete darkness with a silhouette of my body in the form of blueish green energy
Is this getting close to astral projection at all?
>>13054 The flaming tree and chain images are also found in the Rider-Waite Tarot pack, in the cards The Lovers and The Devil. For interpretation I recommend "78 Degrees of Wisdom." I see Tarot symbols IRL and my best guess is that archetypes spring from Yesod, the stage above that of corporeal reality in the Tree of Life.
>>13119 I have similar "feelings".
A very good friend of mine feels the same, like she is "expecting" something that is to come in the next few years. The first time I had this anticipation was about 4 years ago and it is growing, like nothing that is here right now will matter after a certain point in the next few years.
No. 11326 - Anonymous - November 9th, 2009 - 12:44 AM
13119 here, do you feel like you will play a part in what is coming, or that this is what your whole life has been leading up to?
After reading this thread, I have decided to strap down and increase meditation and work on my mental control. Maybe if I work on it enough I will be able to feel things clearer or even find new thing I can do. My christian upbringing tells me what I am messing with is something that is wrong, but I also feel it would be wrong to throw away my gifts, I have them for a reason
I too have a feeling of impending... Something. I have always been a bit of a clairvoyant/prophetic type. Ive had dreams come true days later in exact detail. (Dreamed of 9/11 a week before or so).
Lately it seems my life has been devolving into a series of sick coincidences, deja vu, and Irony.
Ignore your christian dogma. I was raised a christian as well, and am now in a whole mess of things bible thumpers would say is bad. I just see it as enlightenment.
Call me a megalomaniac, but sometimes I feel im meant to do something great. And by great that could be just inspiring somebody to try to make the world better.
Well, this is interesting. I've always felt the same, that I'm in a holding pattern, waiting for something to happen. I had a friend in high school who was very ... weird, in a bad way, who taught me how to astral project. It was a kind of cultish environment, but with just three of us. No idea what that was all about, but he was bad news.
Not to offend any of the enthusiasts here or anything, but it kind of seems pointless. It seems to me like this eminent danger is going to happen no matter what we do, and lots of people are going to die. I suppose in a way we could prevent our death by being prepared.
1. You could develop your astral abilities beforehand, and I don't think anyone is shooting fireballs any time soon from that. Problem with this is that apparently if you have the abilities already, you will not get any more awakened power when this happens.
2. Don't develop your abilities and hope for a good set of abilities when this thing happens. Problem with this is that you never know what you'll get, so how can you prepare without knowing what you've got to shoot with.
Either way, you could end up SOL. So once again no offence to the message you're trying to warn people with, but what's the point in warning people about something that they can't really do anything to stop or prepare themselves for?
Change of pace here, but for example we do believe in the idea that every type of being, creature, or myth we think up exists in the astral realm. Why don't we try to collectively try to think up, or create in essence, good beings in the astral realm? I mean hey, if we think it and it exists, why couldn't we think up some being that has the ability to prevent all of this from happening in the first place? Just a thought.
No. 11331 - Anonymous - November 15th, 2009 - 1:17 AM
>>13166 If you look into Ian Xel Lungold 2012 theory, he mentions an acceleration in the changing of consciousness leading up to the end point. He claims people must learn to be in the zone or meditative state of mind or be overwhelmed by the change. Several will attempt to seek unconscious states through drugs, death, and this should be avoided. Being aware will give you an edge up. Not really saying this is associated with whatever's happening here, but it is a funny coincidence.
Anyhow, I think a solid disbelief in the world to come will effectively nullify your existence in it, which is why I plan on keeping an open mind. Maybe knowing (or having an explanation) IS enough yet gathering too much details will limit your imagination.
That's what I was trying to say. Basically there's not much you can do about it if this is true, and I'm willing to believe just about anything. I'll keep my eye open about it, but I don't plan on meditating or seeking astral abilities for this reason.
>>13196 Besides, just laying back and doing nothing is easier. You'll get your powers anyway if this is true, and you won't waste time doing useless things if this was a troll. Best outcome evah.
I had a that dream when i was first attuned to reiki. I was not shown a tree but an intermediate grassland when then i was taken into an advanced city. here i could physically harness spiritual power, like wind movement when i concentrated, and there was a general feeling that spirits were unquestionably accepted
I was taken through several realms, by a guide.
I was desensitised in a hell relm, where stuff i still am not fond of talking about what happened. Thankfully i was lead by my guides to not be stuck there. then there was a time when i had no fear and was taking on this collossal beast the size of a large building with the power of spirit and they left me a message. they said "this will be you in the future".
I have always had the feeling of needing to be prepared for something. Physically, Emotionally, Mentally leading to spiritual strength. I am extremly glad there are others out there who are on similar paths, sometimes it makes you feel unbearably alone. I know where i stand, i have made an oath to the world, to be the greatest healer i can be. I would love to hear more about this thread as I have been searching /X/ exactly for this.
I) How much of popular mythos ties in with the astral plane? Clashes between gods, demon kings, worlds born of water and worlds destroyed of fire -- such events have been in the third eye of man before imagination.
Not of fear but of curiosity: how real are these visions on our plane? On others?
II) Reoccurring ideas, themes, a higher sense tugging at the back of the mind -- what are these? Are they given flesh in other planes? Do they tie in to the other side of the Veil?
III)I have long felt queer presences in certain places (specifically in my home) and wonder: Are these places of erosion in the Veil? Does something powerful lurk in a different where? This question, I confess, comes from a concern of what may shade unseen in my home.
No. 11337 - Anonymous - November 17th, 2009 - 12:21 AM
A few points.
First off, this 'feeling' of impending... something. It's actually quite common, lately. I don't really have the historical reference, (none but the oldest people do), but it seems to me that it's a newer development. A very large number of people seem to feel a sense of quiet anxiety.
Secondly, I'd like it to be clear. I am not a projector, I am not an astral expert. I'm a sometimes skeptic who's never seen a ghost, and happened across a curious individual with an even more curious tale. A lot of these questions are beyond my abilities to answer.
The closest I have to any sort of paranormal beliefs is the very high number of coincidences that seem to rule my life. Beyond that, I consider everything to be conjecture. I'm an open-minded skeptic, nothing more.
No. 11338 - Anonymous - November 17th, 2009 - 12:22 AM
Loki Was My Homeboy (The name field has disappeared, for some reason.
A few points.
First off, this 'feeling' of impending... something. It's actually quite common, lately. I don't really have the historical reference, (none but the oldest people do), but it seems to me that it's a newer development. A very large number of people seem to feel a sense of quiet anxiety.
Secondly, I'd like it to be clear. I am not a projector, I am not an astral expert. I'm a sometimes skeptic who's never seen a ghost, and happened across a curious individual with an even more curious tale. A lot of these questions are beyond my abilities to answer.
The closest I have to any sort of paranormal beliefs is the very high number of coincidences that seem to rule my life. Beyond that, I consider everything to be conjecture. I'm an open-minded skeptic, nothing more.
No. 11339 - Anonymous - November 17th, 2009 - 12:36 AM
Fair enough. As I've yet to run across ShadowOfEthereal/ShadowOfMan & Guardian I'll play it safe and ask of your discussion with Shadow. The possibility of some older member, browsing /sanc/ pray, illuminating the "quiet anxiety" for lack of better term (it's late here, my brain isn't working) is thrilling.
Unfortunately, only one question stands out to me. Did ShadowOfEthereal elaborate on any of these agencies working for and against the Veil? Names, age, anything? If it serves to jog the memory, I do feel a wariness towards anything meant to be seen by many -- especially if a global consciousness bolsters/erodes the Veil.
No. 11340 - Anonymous - November 18th, 2009 - 1:53 AM
My question deals with the topic of entities and organizations that are working towards this eventuality.
Have you, of the three posters who have commented in such way to lead one to assume that you have knowledge of such things, heard of the Maghid?
No. 11341 - Anonymous - November 18th, 2009 - 2:10 AM
quick question to everyone in this thread
have any of you noticed an increase in military activity in urban and inner city areas?
lately the military has been doing a lot of fly byes here in Brisbane CBD and the suburbs around aswell.
this may have nothing to do with S.O.U.L. or the barrier dropping but something told me to post it here, and my instinct hasn't steaded me wrong yet
No. 11342 - Anonymous - November 18th, 2009 - 4:52 AM
>>13273 Same here in PA. Military vehicles and shit.
Jets too. Not too much though...once every month about....but still more then usual.
No. 11344 - Anonymous - November 19th, 2009 - 7:38 AM
apparently its formation training here in Brisbane, but i haven't heard of them doing formation training in the center of the city before this, it makes no sense and they are well below their normal flight limits.
if the military is stepping up this kind of thing then someone must know something is coming soon, its not the barrier drop because it feels as strong as ever, but i think more people have begun messing with the astral and are stirring up a lot of energy. if they don't get this under control soon then they will awaken something old and dangerous
No. 11345 - Anonymous - November 19th, 2009 - 11:18 AM
>>13273 >>13278 >>13290 >>13312 It might not be the same in australia, but the national guard here is always on the lookout for new recruits, and in the recent economic downturn many people have been turning to the army as a place of employment.
Im not trying to rain on anybodies parade, and im not trying to dispute that it could be something more sinister but the national guard likes to do some exercises every few months and this is likely what you're seeing
No. 11346 - Anonymous - November 20th, 2009 - 5:51 AM
>>13312 They we're conducting military exercises on and before September 11th.
No. 17110 - Zodiac - November 14th, 2010 - 10:46 AM
No. This is the reality that we are not ready for. The Veil, a barrier between this plane of existence and the astral plane, is thinning and will eventually collapse altogether. I want to say that I've noticed the change through myself. Can't say for certain.
Basically, I can't escape the feeling of dreaming. I know that I'm awake, but derealization is still a constant for me. I've attributed it towards stress, but even after dealing with that stress, it still follows. Could be other explanations to it. This is just one of them.
>>11248 >>11249 >>11253
THis sounds VERY similar to the Hopi Elders that appeared with Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf on Art Bells Coast to Coast show in 1997. They spoke to millions of wary listeners around the world as they predicted the coming of The Blue Star Kachina and that the Purifier.
The following is an excerpt from LAST CRY Native American Prophecies & Tales of the End Times, by Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf The Hopi Prophecy of the Blue Star:
"There will be those who would walk in the body that are not from this reality, for many of the gateways that once protected us will be opened, there will be much confusion. Confusion between sexes, and children and their elders."
“Many things will begin to occur that will not make sense, for reality will be shifting back in and out of the dream state. There will be many doorways to the lower world that will open at this time. Things long forgotten will come back to remind us of our past creations. All living things will want to be present for this day when time ends, and we enter the forever cycle of the Fifth World."
I have my suspicions but for now this video seems relevant. What lies beyond the mirror (veil) may be both a blessing and a curse, depending upon each person, their situation and their choice...
I just discovered this on 4chan - Kinda thought it was a joke thread until I got here. I've got mixed thoughts on whether I want this to happen or not. Life the way it is is so mundane, and I refuse to acknowledge I have a mundane destiny. I actually graduate High School in 2014. It'd be interesting if the ceremony was crashed by a manifestation of some ancient god.
