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sacredcow - Friday, November 5th, 2010 - 4:52 PM

hi guys? do plants have intelligence? or perhaps only some do... or maybe they aren't even trees but spirits.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Jan10/FigWasps.html
can plants think/respond?

No. 17033 - HowardLoreid Watcher - November 5th, 2010 - 7:26 PM

Plants are living things and interact with their environments in many ways.

A definition of intelligence: "capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc." -dictionary.com

My vote is no they do not have intelligence.

No. 17065 - Anonymous - November 9th, 2010 - 7:15 AM

not until the elves awaken them they don't have intelligence

No. 17071 - Anonymous - November 9th, 2010 - 10:58 AM

I love how they keep saying "The tree decide to kill the wasp" (paraphrasing). It doesn't. The figs are simply so used to having wasps inside of them that when they don't have them, the die. As simple as that. Nobody decide anything.

Damn anthropomorphism.


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No. 18187 - Silence Astral Traveler - January 20th, 2011 - 8:42 PM

Plants do have intelligence. they interact and communicate with each other and bugs and even some animals with chemical languages. and they do it all on an emotional level

this dude wants to hook plants up to computers and even make plant/robot hybrids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIfwFLDXFyQ


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No. 18756 - Anonymous - April 28th, 2011 - 2:58 PM

"Plants do have intelligence. they interact and communicate with each other and bugs and even some animals with chemical languages. and they do it all on an emotional level"

True

No. 18760 - Lucida - April 28th, 2011 - 4:40 PM

That totally depends on how you define emotions. However, according to the dictionary definition, they don't have intelligence. I believe they have some sort of chemical awareness though, that may be similar but far less sophisticated than what we know of as emotions. And most of their communication is governed strictly by chemistry and response to environment. They don't have abstract concepts or thoughts simply because they don't need them.


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No. 18782 - Anonymous - May 1st, 2011 - 9:28 PM

I cannot explain how I personally know that plant life can interact with other living beings on an emotional level.
However it has been proven that plants do in fact feel "pain".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-83446,00.html

http://davidsright.blogspot.com/2007/01/mythbusters-prove-plants-feel-pain.html

Were I to describe how I can "perceive" varied plant-life emotions then I would be laughed by any homo-sapien existing presently on this planet.

It is true I am nobody special, (Anyone can do these things) but my experiences are my own even if I cannot weigh and verify them quantitatively on a public platform.

No. 18812 - Lucida - May 4th, 2011 - 6:25 PM

>>18782
I'm interested in hearing what you imagine. If you frame it as something you imagine, it's much more likely to be heard and respected than if you present it as absolute truth.

No. 18814 - Anonymous - May 4th, 2011 - 7:49 PM

Thanks for your interest and suggestions.

Synchromatic mysticism Is the best way I can describe this whole process.

Try this experiment. Go out on a hot day with a liter of water. Find a tree that seems as if it could use some H2O. Water it. See if you can form a bond with the life force of the plant. Use your intuition. Can you sense appreciation? Anger? or Ingratitude from the recipient?

Some trees carry a grudge due to something you or another human may have done to it either on purpose or just due to thoughtlessness.

In my worldview there are two sets of people in regards to human / plant-life interaction. Those that cherish life and those that worship death. Those in the former group work in symbiosis with nature helping animals, plants and people when they are supposed to / when they can. These people remember that they are apart of the natural cycle. IE a Tree cannot move it's branches by itself but the wind allows it to. A flower cannot spread it's own pollen but the bee arrives to do it for the flower etc etc.

Those in the latter (death) will go out of their way to actually uproot small trees and shrubs, for no other reason than to cause destruction. I have seen it in happen in major cities near bus stops and highways.


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No. 18817 - Zebus Vampire - May 4th, 2011 - 8:54 PM

I've never felt like plants had any sort of sentience, even though they are 'alive'. It's strange because I would say that they have a life force. Although I'm still learning about my own apparent ability to sense auras, to me plants don't have one. Neither do animals strangely. I can't sense them at all. Usually when I 'see' people in the distance they all appear as various shades of gray until I get to know/touch them and 'issue' them a color. Also on the more lolzy side of this topic. Anybody remember that mythbusters episode where this was tested? And plants apparently prefer heavy metal to grow. Odd indeed.

No. 18857 - sacredcow - May 9th, 2011 - 5:58 PM

>>18814
i don't think it's as simple as that...

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