I recall when I was younger, I found a book in the library which supposedly had a variety of collected information on various works of witchcraft. Among them was an example of a man who, after having learned of the Tibettan "Tulpa", sought to create his own ghost. Eventually, this evolved into a full-fledged haunting which required an exorcism (or so they book said).
In any case, I've been reading up on sigils, egregores, and servitors quite a lot lately and I was struck by a strange hypothetical.
In the men's bathroom of one of the buildings on my university campus, someone has scrolled the attached picture onto a stall door. As at first I was unable to figure out what the picture was (for some reason, my mind immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was a map. Not just stylized writing), I spend a little bit of time puzzling over it whenever I saw it. In a way, I've come to realize, I was sending it energy much as I might a sigil...if I am to understand how sigils work.
This led to a strange, hypothetical though: If a sigil were placed in a spot where many people were to see it, and that sigil were intriguing enough to cause them to wonder "What is that?" Then, hypothetically, the sigil would draw energy from this multitude of thought directed towards it.
Now, what if that sigil were instead the symbol for a servitor or egregore? The thought-form in question would then stand to gain quite a bit of "juice" from the process, would it not?
Following these facts, and throwing ethics to t?he wind, would it not be possible to create an artificial haunting through the use of a "guerilla sigil" which has been cleverly placed so as to draw the attention and thoughts of many?
Just a hypothetical. I'm wondering what you all think.
No. 19826 - Anonymous - October 31st, 2011 - 11:22 AM
Blagh. Sorry for all the typos. Running low on sleep, and I should have thought to read through that before posting.
I don't see any part of that that seems that implausible. I have never sought to control any sort of entity, so it's a bit out of my area of expertise. My concern with it would be if you incorrectly estimated the amount of energy being transformed and created something too strong to be controlled. I think that it could almost be played for hilarity if you purposely created it so to create an 'artificial' haunting of sorts, but you'd have to be pretty careful about the makeup of said sigil I'd assume.
No. 19828 - Anonymous - November 1st, 2011 - 10:35 AM
Alrighty then.
Now, it would appear that with a tulpa/servitor that it might be important to ensure that nobody else has direct access to the creation-sigil so that you can maintain control when necessary. Or at least, from what I understand so far that is case; if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me on that.
If that IS the case, would it be safer to place a different type of sigil that, rather than directly delivering energy to the thought-form instead acts as a sort of "charging station" which sends energy to the artificial spirit in question through a relay system of sorts? (ex: Energy goes to sigil, sigil then transfers stored energy to tulpa. As opposed to the energy going directly to the tulpa)
I think that you would be making it too complicated by having too many steps in said process. However, in theory since my concern would be potentially overpowering said creature (for lack of a better word) perhaps the energy loss I would expect from sigil to sigil and so on would keep that in check. I believe energy is very fluid and can dissipate rather quickly, so it would be a good idea to use a conductor for that. Metal, crystals, ect. Not really something you could do very publicly without unwanted suspicion.
No. 19843 - GoetSorceror - November 5th, 2011 - 4:37 AM
RE: Guerilla sigils - it might interest you to look up the Domus Kaotica/Marauder Underground, whose practises are well within the same spheres. As for an artifical haunting, I'd say it could totally work - give it a whirl and report your results!
I'm not so sure about the idea that if someone takes control of your original sigil, they'll instantly have control over the servitor - while I can see that it's a logical assumption to make, it's just an assumption until someone tests it, and it seems like it'd be pretty difficult to test who has control over a servitor at any one point. For now, I'd just concentrate on putting the sigil out there - after all, the likelihood that it's going to be found (and recognised for what it is) by another magician is pretty slim.
No. 19844 - LuciusArmchair Magician - November 5th, 2011 - 10:21 AM
>>19843
True enough -- I'm sure I don't have too much to worry about in that sphere. I think I /will/ give this a shot. The only issue is that, while I have a small idea of how I will go about this, I've found it fairly difficult to get more information on the creation of servitors and so I'm not too clear on some aspects of the plan.
That being said, next post will outline my theoretical plan a little bit. Perhaps you could all help fine-tune it?
No. 19845 - LuciusArmchair Magician - November 5th, 2011 - 10:43 AM
For the purpose of this experiment the thought-form will be henceforth referred to as "The Haunting" as opposed to the servitor/egregore/etc. I feel that this is important because it will further delineate the purpose and nature of the beast.
The experiment will consist of three phases, which, while happening in their specific order, will not take place on any set timeline. They will happen as they are needed, and are as follows:
1. The Creation, wherein The Haunting will be established and created.
2. The Observation, wherein I will step back from any actual working in favor of simply recording the events. During this phase, certain actions performed in phase 1 will be continued as necessary so as to aid The Haunting.
3. The End. This is fairly obvious: It is when I will remove The Haunting from existence. This phase is optional, though I will leave room for it in the event that things go awry.
The first phase, that of The Haunting's creation, will begin with a small amount of creativity and social engineering on my part. There is a building on campus that is rumored to have been designed by someone from an insane asylum or a prison (the rumor itself varies here). First I will develop a plausible story which follows the model of many an urban-legend/folk-tale surrounding this figure. It should contain enough truth and interest to allow it to spread on its own, and it should also clearly state a few facts, including: The Haunting's name, the key emotion associated with the Haunting, and the prime location of the Haunting. Perhaps I will make use of a sigil so as to aid in the spread of this tale -- though perhaps not.
I may or may not submit information on this haunting to several paranormal/ghost-hunting sites, so that those who look deeper might view it as authentic.
Once I have created the legend of the Haunting, I will create the actual Haunting. To accomplish this I will take the legend and incorporate parts of it into a sigil. I will use an example statement of intent utilizing facts that will not be used in the actual story: "A Spirit Named John Doe Who is Filled with Rage to Haunt the Campus Center"
I will then take this sigil and make use of it in two ways. First, I will place the sigil on a card which I can transport and actively feed with energy as necessary for the first month or so. Second, I will transcribe this sigil in places where it might be seen and contemplated on...such as at eye-level on a bathroom stall door (honestly, that's the only place I can think of right now).
Therefor, the first phase will consist of the creation, energization and spread of the sigil as well as the spread of the story from which the spirit might draw its life. This should energize it two-fold, whilst reinforcing its intent (and perhaps allowing it to evolve along the way, as its legend evolves?)
The second phase, that of observation, will begin once I believe that the Haunting has begun to "awaken". I will take notes on a Monday-Friday basis (having no need to be present on the weekends). These notes will be made public, perhaps through a blogging site, and will be written from the view-point of someone who is not at all aware that the Haunting is artificial. This is so as to not harm the experiment.
The third and final phase will be the dissolution of The Haunting, if that can still be done at that point. It will happen under three circumstances: 1. I feel that the experiment has gotten out of hand. (Too draining to myself, it begins to cause harm, etc. etc.) 2. The experiment is no longer feasible (they decide to shut down the building for repairs, I transfer out, etc. etc.) 3. I grow tired of it and simply decide to end it.
I am still uncertain as to how this phase will work, but it will need to be discreet. My immediate thought is to first destroy all "guerilla sigils" (which will require that I keep track of their locations somehow), and then secondly perform some sort of banishing or reabsorption ritual -- preferably discreetly. Perhaps writing the original sigil on rolling paper, and then using said paper to smoke sage when the time has come would do the trick? It sounds plausible to me, and would certainly be discreet -- enough people roll their own cigarettes on campus.
I couldn't help but laugh about the smoking sage part. That would work I suppose. I can hunt down inhuman entities, but I don't really know anything about creating or controlling them. I'm not sure it's in my sphere of beliefs really. In any case my question is why do it? Other than just as an experiment? I feel like I say 'be careful' in every thread, but yeah, be careful. I'm still slightly concerned about 'feeding' something intentionally, or if there literally is anything there already and not just rumor. Have you checked it out/can you pick it up if anything is pre-existing.
>>19850
If there was something already there, I wouldn't be able to notice it. Though I suppose I might, I haven't had enough experience to be able to tell. There are no rumors to the effect of a haunting yet, however.
>>19874
I'm afraid it hasn't been at the moment. There are a variety of reasons, but basically I've been too exhausted and down-in-the-dumps to focus on much of anything lately.
I'll let you know when I actually get around to starting it.
I had a thought, I'm not too savvy on how this thing works, but what if you 'hid' sigils under chairs or something to give it an extra boost?
No. 19932 - Lucius - December 4th, 2011 - 10:02 AM
>>19911
The way I understand sigils to work is that they need to be visible, so that they can enter the subconscious mind of the viewer. If you don't know it's there it couldn't possibly do anything, right?
That being said, I guess that's worth a try. I guess once I finally get this experiment under way I'll just toss that in as one of many different aspects.
