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No. 20241 - Zebus Vampire - April 10th, 2012 - 10:02 AM

I think it's a lot simpler than that, greed. The haves think for us, tell us what we need to buy. Really it's a system built on fear, fear that we'll have to live without some product or service. It's even worse now in the digital world where all of a sudden it's a cultural more that 'everyone' has to have facebook, email, a smart phone with gps ect ect so that they can be kept track of. Not that I'm a conspiracy guy but putting tracking in smartphones and then making everyone want one was one of the greatest big brother schemes in history. Who needs a viewscreen when they can know where we are at all times?
Anyway, back to your point. It's just greed. All of that money that the 1% has has to come from somewhere, so they scrape it off the backs of the working class, the 99%. Just watched a film that illustrated this beautifully called 'In Time'. Maybe not the best film ever but a perfect example, in that world literally the time we live has become currency, and everyone has exactly 1 year past 25 to live, the rich elite control the system and charge exorbitant prices just to live (rent/commodities) then horde the time for themselves so that they fill their 'clock' and live forever. In the real world it works much the same, just with money. I thought it was a very clever 'take that' at the ever widening gap between the rich and poor in reality.

No. 20283 - Anonymous - May 1st, 2012 - 2:05 AM

As evil as elites can be. Functional Human society NEEDS elites. We are pretty much hardwired as a species to desire hierarchy and we wish to venerate things (Heroes, God, Kings), a 'free' human society, by which I take it you mean one without Elites would be a Human society without any of the wants and needs the require there to be elites in the first place. Let me know when you've found this cthuluoid bizzarro humanity and get back to me.

No. 20356 - Anonymous - June 3rd, 2012 - 7:40 AM

>>20283
Human societies were largely non-hierarchical for the vast majority of history, and elite rule only really began with civilization and agriculture. Before that, people were free, and functioned quite well.

No. 20357 - Luinbariel - June 3rd, 2012 - 9:27 AM

>>20356
Could it be suggested that, before civilization and agriculture, they was simply no need for an elite rule?

We can say people functioned well without it before then, but the advancements they made may have simply required someone to rule in some form if things were going to progress positively. Eventually a project gets big enough that it needs someone to head it, or all the smaller parts can't communicate.

No. 20358 - Zebus Vampire - June 11th, 2012 - 8:00 PM

>>20356
I'd have to disagree. Even as hunter gatherers someone had to do some organization of some type. Even if society was strictly organized by animistic survival of the fittest there is still a semblance of social hierarchy, even if it's as simple as I'm the strongest hunter, I get the best meat. Ect.

>>20283
I agree that we need structure, but one that runs more efficiently. Not that I have a better solution, but the pyramid I posted is more true than I'd like to believe it isn't. Those at the top of the pyramid life lives scott free on the corpses of the poor.