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No. 20699 - Re: The Veil
May 19th, 2013 - 7:17 PM - TLS


Mate, what you have here is the spelled out information I've been trying to find the words for for quite some time. I noticed that you left out description of the Abyss; I agree with your decision. Few uninitiated are ready to hear what else is waiting out there. If that veil falls too soon, you and I both know what will happen. I will be reachable by the standard means should you wish to contact me for further discourse. Carry on your work, as I do mine, and let us hope that we shall succeed.
On another note, those who would have the alternative seem to be attempting more recently to instigate world wars. An interesting but not unusual tactic. Let's be on guard, shall we?
Chaos Permeates Everything.

No. 20698 - Re: I was drowned..
May 19th, 2013 - 5:29 PM - B


Hello BEN

No. 20697 - Re: Where is everyone?
May 13th, 2013 - 8:37 AM - Ritual


>>20665
I still visit here sometimes. It was so quiet though that I eventually cancelled it. We kind of strayed a little from the point of it imo. Sorry for being a jerkoff. If any ex-VAULT people are serious about a reunion, try working on horror music for movies or videogames, stuff like Eraserhead, Condemned, Amnesia, Tetsuo, Videodrome, Lovecraft-influenced media and so on. I'm big on the whole extreme horror thing (which kind of put a lot of people off)

No. 20696 - Re: Where is everyone?
May 11th, 2013 - 7:09 AM - Hermit


That's a hard one to break. Best of luck to you.

No. 20695 - Re: Gideon Keys
May 8th, 2013 - 5:21 PM - Anonymous


Bakersfieldanon.wordpress.com

No. 20694 - Re: Where is everyone?
May 6th, 2013 - 7:26 AM - Anonymous


>>20693
sorry to freak out a bit >.> discontinuing a certain routine for sake of detoxing mind/body and it's making me quite serious. and cranky. it's proving tricky to find a balance of introversion, and drive for expression, without said habit. pic possibly related

No. 20693 - Re: Where is everyone?
May 5th, 2013 - 8:07 AM - Hermit


>>20692
No pressure, take our time.

No. 20692 - Re: Where is everyone?
May 2nd, 2013 - 5:40 PM - Anonymous


>>20683
i didn't forget, i'm just not ready :] i'll start a new thread around june 9th, but it could be a while before anything interesting actually happens. i just want to prove that normal people are capable of superhuman capabilities, so i am documenting my journey out of mediocrity. i think many grow discouraged (me included) because they are not born particularly talented in the areas of their desires, and i'm determined to prove to myself (and unavoidably, other people), that obsessive hard work can bring about anything; 'strange' abilities not excluded

No. 20691 - Re: illuminati members
May 1st, 2013 - 11:09 AM - seekerofshadows


seconding thenewstoryteller, he's definitely illuminati

No. 20690 - I was drowned..
May 1st, 2013 - 10:31 AM - BEN..


My name is BEN...

No. 20689 - Re: illuminati members
May 1st, 2013 - 9:49 AM - truthfinder112354


i heard the new story teller is a member of the illuminati

No. 20688 - Re: Bible May Have Been Mistranslated
May 1st, 2013 - 9:29 AM - epic


hey....you may be on two something hear :P nice site man

No. 20687 - Re: ...
April 30th, 2013 - 11:19 PM - sacredcow


got the heebies, bro.

No. 20686 - ...
April 26th, 2013 - 10:31 AM - BEN..


You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?...

No. 20685 - Re: Video Game Paranorm
April 26th, 2013 - 10:16 AM - BEN..


There is so much paranormal stuff in gaming. Take me as an example...

No. 20684 - Re: Creepypasta HorrorClix
April 26th, 2013 - 10:00 AM - BEN...


you could always use me...

No. 20683 - Re: Where is everyone?
April 22nd, 2013 - 2:40 PM - Hermit


>>20682
I would be interested in reading that.

No. 20682 - Re: Where is everyone?
April 22nd, 2013 - 9:11 AM - pr0ginoskes


sort stopped frequenting /x/ both here, and there, in hopes that i would get things done. in wake of the laziness that resulted, (just ended up reading a lot, a whole lot) will probably be more inclined to share the results of whatever i'm working on. mostly just expanding the faculties of my brain to include impossibilities. i plan on working really hard over the next 6 months in particular. regardless i rather like this place, even if it's basically dead, and it would be nice to have like-minded people to communicate with. starting this week, i will be trying to come up with some cool experiments and will share the results if they are to my liking, or at least interesting.

No. 20681 - Re: Where is everyone?
April 21st, 2013 - 12:21 AM - Xzen


I honestly lost interest because it hasn't been anywhere near active at it was when I first came here in '09. Like, when sanctuary looked like old fashion chan and everything. I miss it, honestly, I miss the theater and the irc chat too. I miss all of the old sanctuary. I don't feel connected here anymore.

No. 20680 - Re: Mind altering audio
April 14th, 2013 - 7:07 AM - Lycaon


>>20677

Not sure which is better. I only have had limited exposure to these types of programs, and the one I used was a cracked version of a paid for program that didn't allow you to make your own beats. If you do go that route, you will need to do alot of research to make your beats.

Happy hunting!

No. 20679 - Re: A New League
April 8th, 2013 - 6:42 PM - Lycaon


Sorry I missed you Goet... We don't usually get started till 9PM EST... about 2AM GMT... :(

No. 20678 - Re: A New League
April 8th, 2013 - 8:00 AM - Goet


Awesome. I'll be on tonight at some point around 11pm GMT and see how you's folks are doing~

No. 20677 - Re: Mind altering audio
April 7th, 2013 - 7:59 PM - Anonymous


Thanks for the response. Do you know which "brand" of binaural I should get?

No. 20676 - Re: Mind altering audio
April 7th, 2013 - 7:12 PM - Lycaon


Hey OP!

Check out these links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_brainwave_entrainment_software

This might be what your looking for... Other than that I can't help you too much, since I seemed to have lost my copy of a paid for binaural beats program...

No. 20675 - Mind altering audio
April 7th, 2013 - 5:56 PM - Anonymous


I found a weird vinyl record in my closet a few days ago that self-hypnotizes for deeper relaxation. It sparked my interest and now I've been on a kick to find things of a similar nature. I'm looking for any sort of audio aid that will take me to a state of mind, whether that is hypnotism for reaching lucid dreaming, some collections of sound waves that will induce an out of body experience, or maybe something that will take me on a journey. I'm open to anything. I've heard a lot of conflict regarding binaural beats but I've never really given them a shot. Thanks in advance.

Here's a few examples of what I've found already:

That vinyl record is by Dr. Aram H. Azadian. It's called Hypnotize yourself successfuly.

Sphinx of Imagination by Hypnotica. It was a little too hoaky for me, but I'd be willing to give them another shot.

Louise Huebner thanks to Cracked.com. Funny in a sense, but also interesting.

Paul Santasi's collection of hypnosis. Haven't listened to much of it yet.

Enigma might even be similar to what I'm looking for. I really dig that album MCMXC a.D. I also have other ambient bands that I like such as Motion Sickness of Time Travel and Sun Araw, but they're not quite what I'm searching for I don't think.

I also posted this on 420chan, but I was happy to see that Sanctuary is getting traffic again, so I figured I'd add to the fire.

No. 20674 - Re: A New League
April 4th, 2013 - 8:40 PM - Lycaon


>>20669

Rizon is an IRC server. Helldive is the newer channel of what once was (or still is?) the League of /x/traordinary gentlemen...

I'm on there, and some other people from /x/ and other places... Its an alright place, just we sometimes run out of paranormal topics to discuss, hence being offtopic much of the time...

No. 20673 - Re: A New League
April 3rd, 2013 - 7:55 PM - Zebus


>>20669
Sucks but it's the only place I know that's active = (
What's this Rizon business? Another forum?
Hard to get my paranormal fix these days....most people just don't seem interested in it anymore.

No. 20672 - Re: A New League
March 29th, 2013 - 1:21 PM - Hermit


>>20669
Don't be sorry. That made me laugh and I much, much needed to laugh.

No. 20671 - Re: A New League
March 28th, 2013 - 11:29 AM - Lycaon


>>20670

Seconded.

>>20669

Yea, I get you Goet. There are still some of us on Rizon... #helldive for the time being if you ever wanted to stop in and talk.

Though I haven't been keeping up my own practices much either as of late... finding the time while attempting to keep up with other real life things is sometimes difficult.

That's not to say that we don't have our own little nuggets of shit floating about, but, eh I think with anything /x/ you get a little of a and a little of b at the best of times. People tend to over embellish things at the best of times, and at the worst? Well you get my point.

Though I am not sure what the 'current occult groups' are up to... I haven't been looking into other groups as of late.

No. 20670 - Re: A New League
March 27th, 2013 - 10:34 PM - sacredcow


i hereby submit a motion to recognize goet as
writer of the year: all years.

No. 20669 - Re: A New League
March 27th, 2013 - 9:54 AM - Goet


>>20667
Naw, I never did. I've found it's becoming harder and harder to find folk who hit the sweet spot in that Venn Diagram of a) interested in the occult, b) not sexist, racist, queerphobic etc, c) not completely up their own arses trying to "teach" people their True Way, and d) doesn't instantly assume every report you find is paranormal - or even true - and then sets off to go hunt it like they're on Supernatural.

I've managed to wean myself off of 4ch*n's /x/ board, because it's like panning for gold in a river where it's pretty evident there's someone upstream who's got severe diarrhea. You'll uncover a fair few nuggets of gold, but only after squishing your way through handfuls of nuggets of raw fecal matter. And over time, your sieve gets successively more clogged with shit to the point that you can't even filter the shit away. There are even people downriver from you who didn't even come with sieves, and just open their mouths in the water to suck in as much shit as possible with the hopes that they'll catch a nugget between their teeth, but more likely they'll just end up swallowing it and shitting it back out, making it untenable for the folk who might have actually found it useful. And then everyone starts flinging the shit around at each other, trading each other handfuls and trying to convince each other that there's chunks of gold inside, if only you squeeze it hard enough.

That was a fucking ghastly extended metaphor. I am so, so sorry.

What would be awesome is if we could make a coalition of people into the occult who are already doing their own thing - magick, UFOs, Goetia, psi phenomena, what-have-you - and bring them together under a common banner to do Cool Stuff as a group. I've been lackadaisical with my own practices recently, and it'd be great to basically have a study group about so we can all share stuff like new developments in magic, what the latest occult groups are up to, our own personal insights into certain magical systems, critically looking at how magic is practised, sigil-bombing and all that stuff.

No. 20668 - Re: S.O.U.L.
March 25th, 2013 - 7:47 PM - Lycaon


I think that this idea had a lot of people interested in it... I wonder if Shadow is still around... I haven't heard from him in a long while.

No. 20667 - Re: A New League
March 25th, 2013 - 7:46 PM - Lycaon


I'm wondering if Goet ever did attempt to get this off of the ground... the League still is kicking around... though the activity of it can be debated at times... Depends on the number of people around.

Keep and eye on 4chans /x/ and you might find a post for the league started by blackblade, from time to time.

No. 20666 - Re: S.O.U.L.
March 19th, 2013 - 10:35 PM - Anonymous


Surprised that this topic has transcended at least 7 years of interest.

No. 20665 - Re: Where is everyone?
March 18th, 2013 - 6:37 PM - onichomp


i've been checking in every once in a while in hopes that Ritual would return to start up VAULT again...but it looks like he disappeared.

No. 20664 - Re: S.O.U.L.
March 11th, 2013 - 10:00 PM - Anonymous


i take a piss...ah....relief : - )

No. 20663 - Re: S.O.U.L.
March 11th, 2013 - 6:26 PM - Rave


I just discovered this on 4chan - Kinda thought it was a joke thread until I got here. I've got mixed thoughts on whether I want this to happen or not. Life the way it is is so mundane, and I refuse to acknowledge I have a mundane destiny. I actually graduate High School in 2014. It'd be interesting if the ceremony was crashed by a manifestation of some ancient god.

No. 20661 - Re: Creepypasta HorrorClix
March 2nd, 2013 - 10:18 AM - Anonymous


17832
sauce?

No. 20660 - Places you've read or dreamt that turn out to exist
February 10th, 2013 - 7:11 PM - Hermit


Found the attached picture. Imemdiately though to :
http://glasganon.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/111/

No. 20659 - Re: Bible May Have Been Mistranslated
February 10th, 2013 - 11:14 AM - Zebus


>>20658

No. 20658 - Re: Bible May Have Been Mistranslated
February 8th, 2013 - 10:16 PM - Eh


Regarding the topic I can only think about somebody:
Zecharia Sitchin

No. 20657 - Re: Tulpa personhood
February 3rd, 2013 - 3:03 AM - Anonymous


>>20632
By "hardware" I meant the physical brain. If it's the case that tulpas are one more level abstracted from the physical than our own consciousnesses, and don't run side-by-side, then I agree with
>just an extension of yourself

No. 20656 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 30th, 2013 - 10:20 PM - Anonymous


>>20654
I'm actually around daily, I just skip over the majority subject matter sometimes. I think I've become desensitized to creepy things.

I'm good. I've been looking into rebooting the Phalanx project which got sidetracked awhile back but there's not really room for any new social network-type sites. Thinking of just tying it into accounts for my indie games to give it relevance.

Have bits and pieces of unfinished game projects. Did the Ludum Dare last month. Finished 304 overall out of 900 or something. Really buggy game. Still read /x/ every now and then. Semi-disgruntled with world politics. Other than that, not much.

No. 20655 - Re: Index / Quick references
January 30th, 2013 - 7:54 PM - Hermit


New tarot thread :

pr0ginoskes : >>20637

No. 20654 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 30th, 2013 - 7:40 PM - Hermit


>>20652
That was quick, sent the support ticket only this morning. Thanks for fixing it!

And nice to see you around, by the way. How have you been doing?

No. 20653 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 30th, 2013 - 5:53 PM - Anonymous


OR MAYBE I THOUGHT THE WORLD WOULD END!!

No. 20652 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 30th, 2013 - 5:46 PM - Prelucid


>>20650
It was bad and embarrassing coding on my part.

At some point in Sanctuary development, I figured it would be better if images were sorted into nested directories for year and date. I think they were piling up in the main "images" directory and my ftp took forever to load all the files when backing up so I made the changes. Of course my code doesn't automatic create the directories each month or year, so when the director doesn't exist, it errors.

Solution for now is to log in and create 13 folders. It's small upkeep I'm supposed to do every December at the latest.

No. 20650 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 30th, 2013 - 5:35 PM - Anonymous


>>20638
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I just got a support ticket for it too. No idea if what I just did fixed it, but hopefully it should work now.

No. 20649 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 30th, 2013 - 5:07 PM - pr0ginoskes


indeed you can, here you are good sir or madam:

in the past is chief seattle, prince of stones reversed. chief seattle was one of the last voices of the native americans. reversed he represents despair, selfishness, lack of devotion and an out-of-touch feeling with reality, especially with physical (money stuff, and the body)

present is the nine of swords reversed, entitled cruelty. nine of swords upright is the end of a cycle but reversed, it hearkens back to the problems outlined in the eight. you have real problems but you have internalized them, making them intangible. your mind is manipulating yourself, therefore you experience cruel conditions. find faith, find something you can believe in, even as simple as tomorrow. overthinking has created a nightmare for you; determine a way to release these bad feelings creatively and be liberated by your mind.

future is aeon, more traditionally known as judgement. moving through painful periods of change; despite that, renewal and optimism persists. there is spontaneity! no longer do your past beliefs in limitation need to hold you back. you can see the world through new eyes. all things are possible here. this rebirth is a blessing for you, and the world is conspiring to awaken you. now is the time to listen to the still small voice inside yourself. hold on to what you love and believe in, and forgive and forget the rest. your liberation is not just yours but everyone around you, everyone you touch, no matter how brief. direct your concentration constructively, compassionately, and so transform.

influences on the future; four of stones, the power of earth. the earthen physical meets spirit, you are full of new ideas as well as the energy to implement them. you have protected yourself from the world so you could get to this point; now gather all your strength and take the frightening but necessary first step. do what you have always dreamed of doing. eight of swords, interference. you are interfering with yourself, you are fighting battles in your head. name your limiting illusions so you can effectively dispel them. don't be overwhelmed; if you do not take the time to create peace inside yourself, where else will you find peace of mind? and the three of cups, entitled overflowing. there is no crisis here. creative talents, more sensitive interests and abstract ideals. connect individually to the people around you; doesn't mean romantical-ish, necessarily, but it can if you want to. be willing to come out of your self-imprisonment, and the world will open up to you in the same way. be willing to cry the kind of tears you cry when you are really happy. really good feels :)

and lastly, the center of it all: seven of swords reversed, entitled uselessness. you are inconveniencing yourself, and you know it. but it's okay, because once you open up, once you let go of your self-sabotage, what can't you do really? talk to somebody, or just get it out somehow, and then move on, don't let it keep you where you have been. the benefit of your self imposed isolation is that you have an inner voice to guide you and connect you to all the things you have been defending yourself from, possibly other people. allow yourself to be guided out of the confines of a dark mind and don't be afraid to let all the good things inside you shine.

i hope this is relatively accurate and helpful to you in some way. the mind can be a rough thing. master it before it masters you. i sympathize. :( but it's up to you, now and always, to say enough is enough. it can be done! i recommend the book the secret science if you feel you have no basis to move on from. somewhat heavy reading but it changed the way i looked at things.

No. 20646 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 30th, 2013 - 12:15 AM - sacredcow


can i get a general reading using the haindl deck?
please and thank you.

No. 20645 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 30th, 2013 - 12:13 AM - sacredcow


>>20638
:o
i thought it was some sort of corrupted file that all the cool kids were posting now a days.
you're not alone.

No. 20644 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 29th, 2013 - 5:59 PM - pr0ginoskes


that's a relief! i kind of believe you haha. i'm glad you got the nine of cups, i always feel like it's a high five from the universe. and not at all, i just psyched myself out i think.

http://i46.tinypic.com/5bsny1.jpg

^ the layout i used. the upwards apex of the triangle is the past, clockwise around is present and future. then you go from the bottom most point, clockwise around again (the top two oppose each other, usually), and the center card is like the heart. usually i just do body/mind/spirit, and use the above sparingly, possibly because i am convinced that the book it comes from (wizards and witches) is made of real magic. 10 years hot damn! your fairy oracle is neat, i imagine it has a personality of its own now, especially cause it's fairies.

No. 20643 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 28th, 2013 - 7:16 PM - Hermit


That was very good and accurate. A few things I was expecting (especially the present card, and the reversed five of cup) and a few nice surprises. I know whom most of the figures are (or I think I know).

You did fine :-) Reading for strangers is hard, it's even harder over the net as there is so little to establish the connection. I hope it did not drain you too badly.

What is the spread/layout you use? Other then my oracle deck (which I have been using for over 10 years at this point) I tend to limit online tarot readings to a simple 5 cards spread. Yours looks a lot more extensive and I'd be curious to see the outlines of it.

No. 20642 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 28th, 2013 - 12:58 PM - pr0ginoskes


shit i am overwhelmed with the thought that i did a really poor job. i decided to dowse with a pendulum instead of drawing the cards by hand. i live in a fairly haunted place and i am afraid my hand was influenced by things i am too desensitized to notice. my bunny was freaking out last night, though it was a full moon and maybe i am just nervous reading for a stranger. i think i should have gone outside to do your reading. i feel really bad now and wish i had offered to burn you a cd or something.

No. 20641 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 28th, 2013 - 2:11 AM - pr0ginoskes


but don't sleep outside now because it is cold >_> not gonna lie, that was pretty intense. i hope i was not completely off the mark up there.

No. 20640 - Re: For pr0ginoskes
January 28th, 2013 - 2:05 AM - pr0ginoskes


ahoy, and please post underneath this if you would like a reading. i'm not as confident in the art as some around me, but i am focused, and appreciate the opportunity for improvement.

and now, a reading for a Hermit.

in the position for the past is the six of cups. looking behind you at the good things, because they are restorative. or looking back at what you've made it through and realizing you are enduring, and that you can continue to endure. the meaningfulness of simple affections despite how small the world makes them look, and the assuredness of a joyful future.

in the present, two of stones. don't be too hasty now, things are delicately balanced even if they are about to change. it shouldn't be uncomfortable. you don't have to be serious all the time to be enlightened. balance your studious nature and extra energies with amusement, absurdities even, and you will naturally fall into harmony.

in the future is the white buffalo woman, daughter of stones. according to legend, she brought the lakota people the pipe, seven rituals, and prophesied her return someday. you are willing to take responsibility for something greater than yourself. industrious and driven, and instinctively responsible. could be accused of not having any fun. but such powers of assessment and old fashioned nobleness will allow you to succeed where others might fail. there is really nothing one cannot accomplish with steady tenacity. maybe unwilling to leave safety of the present, but you have been blessed with an able and empathetic nature and it would be a shame to hide yourself, when you have so much to share with those around you.

influences: nine of cups, fortune. everything goes beautifully. you get your wish. absolutely could not get more positive than this . brigid of ireland, daughter of cups. i hesitate to be so forward but i sense a ladylike presence. and five of cups reversed. a sorrowful yet realistic view of past events. maybe someone you thought you had lost is not so lost after all.

at the center is krishna, prince of wands. go! and be free! the unexpected will always be there. either fear it or befriend it. you think you are so stodgy. you are actually the melodramatic, adventuresome and epic, prodigious and warm, and apparently have nothing to worry about with the ladies. you need to get out, see the world, let the world see you, and come to know yourself. be more foolish than the hermit, sleep out under the stars and don't be afraid of anything.

No. 20639 - Re: Hermit's weave
January 27th, 2013 - 1:04 PM - Hermit


>>20635
Opened the new thread for you. If you join the group you can open other ones, as you wish.

And a general reading with the haindl, if I may.

No. 20638 - Re: Sorry to double-thread...
January 27th, 2013 - 1:03 PM - Hermit


Might just be me, but I am getting errors when uploading images and images recently uploaded by others show up as empty files?

No. 20637 - For pr0ginoskes
January 27th, 2013 - 1:02 PM - Hermit


As per >>20635

No. 20635 - Re: Hermit's weave
January 27th, 2013 - 11:20 AM - pr0ginoskes


i would not mind at all if you opened a thread! turned my handle on to make it easier. i await your query, unless you would prefer a more general type reading. i have two decks; medieval cats, for more tangible questions and less intimidating answers, and the haindl tarot, which is a bit more abstract and serious. which would be more appropriate for you right now?

and i'm glad this place is still kickin' it, i will remember to frequent it from now on. took a break from the internets but i missed this spot.

No. 20634 - Re: Hermit's weave
January 26th, 2013 - 10:43 PM - Hermit


>>20633
I am still around, I check this place every other day.

I am glad to hear from you and that the reading was useful to you!

I would be honored to accept your offer. Do you want me to open a new thread for you?

No. 20633 - Re: Hermit's weave
January 26th, 2013 - 9:07 PM - Anonymous


>>18394
hello there. i know this is years later and i do not know if you frequent this place any longer. i happen to be the person who posted just above. i am horribly embarrassed to read what i have written but it was from a rather desperate place. incidentally your reading helped me out a lot. the only thing that has permanently changed in me since then was my perspective, but what more can you ask for really. anyways, since that time i have become a bit more adept at reading cards for myself and others, not excellent but fair i suppose. i felt that it would be prudent to offer you what skills i have garnered, if you should desire a reading for yourself, in thanks for your troubles many moons ago.

No. 20632 - Re: Tulpa personhood
January 24th, 2013 - 8:32 PM - Zebus


Not that I'm very schooled on such things but I see your point. It seems to me like it's more like introspection though, given the assumption that the same 'hardware' meaning that a tulpa is just an extension of yourself. I would argue that it is not possible for a human to create life. You can breathe 'life' into a concept or ideal, in this case something immaterial that is a sort of reflection, so it would seem like nothing more than acting on yourself.

No. 20631 - Re: Tulpa personhood
January 24th, 2013 - 1:57 AM - Anonymous


>>20629
I think the idea is you do that improv for awhile until it becomes self-sustaining.

>>20630
"Logically", then?

No. 20630 - Re: Tulpa personhood
January 23rd, 2013 - 6:38 AM - Goet


If we're approaching this strictly scientifically, I think it's a bit of a non-issue to consider the morality and ethics of tulpas when there's actually no rigorous scientific evidence for the existence of tulpas in the first place.

For example, you've said tulpas "run on the same hardware that you're running on", but there's no compelling evidence for this any more than there is evidence for the statement that tulpas are actually sentient but non-sapient Yttrium currents energised by the colour cyan and are formed from undiscovered brain functions in Drosophila flies.

That's not to say speculating on the morality of tulpas is a waste of time - just that to do it strictly scientifically would require you to admit that some of the assumptions/facts you're using aren't scientific at all.

No. 20629 - Re: Tulpa personhood
January 23rd, 2013 - 1:23 AM - Anonymous


Does this involve a bit of madness or vigilant self delusion? I can't see myself creating an imaginary friend that isn't anything more than a form of ongoing character improv.

No. 20628 - Tulpa personhood
January 23rd, 2013 - 1:01 AM - Anonymous


(please stay scientific, no souls etc)

Would you consider a tulpa to be a person you should feel guilty for doing bad things to, or is it just a very convincing manifestation of you talking to yourself?

The reasoning behind my question is this: a tulpa is something that behaves like a person, and runs on the same hardware that you're running on, so it seems possible that the tulpa-creation process splits your mind, like a cell undergoing mitosis.

I don't plan on doing anything objectionable, it's just that if I am in fact creating a new person then that's something I need to approach with a lot more weight.

No. 20627 - Astral Time Travel
January 22nd, 2013 - 8:58 PM - Anonymous


Awhile back I posted a thread asking for anybody that had psychic talent to help me with a request that was a bit...morbid. A friend of mine was murdered in my hometown 8 months ago now. Today my Mom told me a bizarre story.
Last night she had night-long nightmares about the incident. At this point details are fairly well known to us, so there weren't many revelations there. She said that she saw events happen differently (slightly) as they were described (the killer coming from another direction than previously though). Apparently she was obviously distressed and yelling and my Dad wasn't able to wake her up. She woke up feeling very drained. We know that something of his (the friend) was missing, and she saw the shapes of the people responsible take it from him. It was a necklace, and when she woke up she had a rash/irritated skin on her collar bone where a necklace would lay. Other details, that this happened around 330 AM (Isn't it always) and that our late friend's younger brother has also been having a lot of nightmares lately about it. Being the family's resident paranormal expert she asked me what I thought about it.
Honestly I'm not sure what to think. I proposed that either
A) It was her subconscious trying hard to find out what happened, so she was making a mental construct to give herself an answer.
B) She tapped into the collective unconscious somehow (doubtful, I don't believe in that)
C) She possibly accidentally astrally projected herself, but instead of through space like usual, this seemed to be through time.
Given time doesn't flow in a straight line, and that things like past life regression (if you believe in it) are possible. Could this have happened? What would cause such a thing? I doubt since she didn't see him directly it wasn't thoughtful communication.

No. 20626 - Re: Military Built UFOs (Declassified)
January 22nd, 2013 - 1:05 PM - Blackblade


It kind of reminds me of all the failed weapon tech from WW2, and the persuit of the Jetpack.

No. 20625 - Re: Video Game Paranorm
January 22nd, 2013 - 12:59 PM - Blackblade


You know, I haven't found any proof of it's existance. However, I fund the entire urban legend too be fascinating, and original.